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Дата публикации: 2012-02-03
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BOMBING SCIENCE Barnes BSCI: Can you please tell us a little about your BSCI: Tell us a bit about your history. I know you come up. When did you decide to start writing are originally from the US and now living in and how did it all happen? Seoul Korea. How did that come about? Barnes: My beginnings were somewhat Barnes: Iím actually a fisherman, but since complicated and pretty uninspired actually. I thereís little money in the trade, Iíve opted to was going to a lot of punk rock and hardcore go with a teaching career. In 2003, I finished shows when I was 15 and 16 (mid 90s) and my masterís in Georgia and had little options to eventually met this cat SAPONE out of Upper earn a sustainable income there, so I moved Darby, PA. Dude introduced me to the local out to Oregon. After about a year there I made scene and general mayhem techniques the move to teach out in Korea. I had a few (flared Philly hands and scratch rocks mainly). options in Asia, but Korea seemed to have the Anyways, homeboy got me hooked but best living situation and chance to save some never really showed me the ropes. I stayed loot. Teaching out here provides an incredible interested, just never schooled by any older lifestyle of minimal worries and quality social writers until much later in my life. After a life. No complaints. shitload of ridiculous and played out names (dank, bilt, done, stormÖ) and little style BSCI: So you are a fisherman. I just ate 3 huge progression, I finally met some good cats to plates of seafood in this dope Peruvian jumpy. learn with in Savannah, GA- Stoats, Oysta, Saint Shit was money. What is your favorite fish or and Mock. I was still pretty shit, but a decent seafood dish? artist, so as soon as I focused my efforts onto letterforms, I progressed exponentially over a Barnes: Hah! Naw, Iím just an avid fishing junkie few years. During that time, Stoats suggested when I got time, not a serious commercial the name Barne and it has stuck to this day. fisherman by any stretch. Regardless, the finest BOMBING SCIENCE

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BOMBING SCIENCE tasting fish in my opinion is some freshly caught BSCI: How is graffiti seen by the general public walleye gobbled right there on the shoreline. in Seoul? No doubt. Also, good old grilled red snapper on the beach usually hits my money spot. Barnes: Graffiti is still relatively new to Koreans. It got introduced here in the late 90s, so thereís BSCI: You ever got to bomb boats or use boats a 25 or so year gap they need to catch up to go bomb walls in the water? on. I think a lot of the younger generation is cool with it, thinking of it as being ìhip hopî and Barnes: Iíve used canoes and small boats to trendy. Older heads around these parts donít get to some small river and bayside spots really have a clue. If they happen to catch a before. Tried throwing some shit up off the side glance, they look confused and by the time of the boat one night, but there were far too they realized their shitís been defaced, Iím many obstacles to pull it off even kind of well. gone. BSCI: What are the major differences you BSCI: Lets talk about style. In my opinion it’s noticed between US writers and the writers in all about style from hands to pieces, you must Seoul. have it.. Do you agree? Barnes: The biggest difference between a Barnes: No doubt. Gotta have your own take western writer and Korean is the destruction of on whatever alphabet you use- usually built public property. A lot of cats in the game here on a foundation of simple letters and style. No are more urban influenced artists than proper use jumping into the game without having a writers. I find that some of the better writers handle on the basics. here had a quick spat with tagging when they first started up and then quickly moved on to BSCI: Looks like you have a very sharp painting sick characters and pieces. I have modern yet classic graffiti style. Do you have no problems with that at all, whatever, but anything to say about the new wave of from their perspectives, they got little love for writers who either never had a solid graff style us fools going around scribbling our names on or who did but still switched to this «naive» everything in our path. hipsteresque style that we see popping up a bit everywhere. You know, the shit that looks BOMBING SCIENCE

BOMBING SCIENCE like a 12 year old kid did it back in the 70’s? BSCI: How far does someone have to fuck with you (graffiti wise) until he receives a proper ass Barnes: Hah! I know exactly what youíre talking kicking? Also, did you ever get in to a scrap about and I just donítí get it. I see it all over over writing and if yes please share the story. the web, with loads of prominent blog sites glorifying this style. I say good for you if youíre Barnes: Haha! Itís funny because Iím not a going out there writing your name on whatever huge guy or nothing, but I take this shit serious it is you can find. But regarding this style, it just enough and get loaded enough to scrap if it doesnít appeal to me. Iím constantly looking comes up. (Fuck you steez and fuck you jino, into these pieces for something more, like a you cunt fucks) If a cat clips me with a swoop good scheme, quality lines or some sort of or some shit on their tag, no worries, but if I get handiwork that will enlighten me as to why this deliberately crossed, especially in Korea, I go a style is so popular. Still havenít come up with little berserk. The way I see it is, if you cap one anything. of my tags, I chrome out everything of yours I see. Again Iím not a ruffian or anything, but I BSCI: Each writer does graffiti for different get shitfaced and want to crush some of these reasons. What are yours? pussies out to claim a little undeserved fame. Barnes: Like most writers, Iím a narcissist. I do it As for a story, I got a few. This oneís funnier for sheer vanity and excitement. Shit turns me than hardcore, but worth telling. So one night on like nothing else in the world. I was drinking Pisco, a Chilean liquor that gets me just right, here in Korea with a friend and BSCI: If you had to chose another graff name, decided to hit this elevated rooftop spot in what would you write? front of copious amounts of onlookers at 9PM- stupid. Got up, got it done, got down and Barnes: I dig my name and the letters involved. realized mad heads were flicking me. So I got I honestly donít know another moniker that I out quick, turned a few corners and was back could go with. Everythingís been used again on it. What I didnít know was there was a group and again. And Iím a firm believer that your of 4 western fellas following me and taking name should come to you and fit. This seems to pictures the whole time. I hit a quick script and do just that. they ran up to me and snapped a pic of my BOMBING SCIENCE

BOMBING SCIENCE face, so I lost it. I just cracked the first dude in care. Iím with a beautiful Korean queen at the the nose and proceeded to get fucked up by moment, and loving it. To be honest a lot of these other twats. They had me pinned and Korean girls are pretty difficult, but if you show somehow I walked away with only a bleeding some flash and decent fashion sense, none lip and a shitload of rage. For some reason of which I possess, youíll do great. I landed I kept provoking them and one dude just a money Korean broad and am grateful no walked up to me and cracked me in the face. doubt. Fucked me up good but was still left standing and even more enraged. So I did what any BSCI: If you could shoot one person and get normal guy would do. I followed them to their away with it, who would you clap? bar, took a few jager shots, called some korean homies, who proptly responded like champs, Barnes: The top dog in the illuminati or Pauly and went back to their bar. I walked down all Shore. Either way, the world benefits. badass and called them out to finish the job. They obviously thought I was insane and as BSCI: Any regrets in the graff game? did the bar owner. Dude kicked me out of his bar and soon after one of these fools walked Barnes: Painting trains with a certain unnamed outside to meet me and some hard Korean friend, which wound up costing me loads. Still a motherfuckers. He went back in and gathered great friend, so itís all good, but fuck me. Fuck his troops, we met around the corner and me. they called a truce. Apologized and acted a fool. Ended up buying us loads of drinks and BSCI: Anything you would like to tell our actually being decent guys. Whatever though, viewers, graff or non graff related. fuck em. Barnes: Yeah, thereís no shame in biting in the BSCI: I’m not big fan of generic graff interviews beginning. Learn from the greats in the game so lets talk about something else. Korean girls. and slowly develop your own style. Burn one Whats good with that? Any knowledge for the down and get as funky as your wrist can make westerners who might visit? it. Oh yeah, fuck cigarettes and smoke trees instead. Barnes: Korea girls are ace. Consistently attractive, but for good reason. Loads of BSCI: Word up Barnes. Thank you for your time money and vanity means a lot of plastic and this great interview! alterations. I canít seem to notice or really BOMBING SCIENCE

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BOMBING SCIENCE Sacred Bombing Science: Sacred, what’s good BSCI: Can you break down some historical homie? knowledge about Indianapolisand the Mid- West graff scene in general? Sacred: Yo.. I’m slacking off at work right now to answer these questions and getting paid for Sacred: I need a history lesson about the whole it! Mid-West scene, but I know Chicagohas been holding it down for quite some time. Prior to BSCI: Haha, that’s whats up! Tell us a bit about the mid-90s the bboy and dj scenes were your stomping grounds. What is it like being a what was happening in Indianapolis. During writer in your city? those times there were a handful of people painting but not really focusing on it. The mid- Sacred: Indianapolis, born and raised. 90s was when it hit. Some of the original crews Commonly known for racing, big conventions, doing the most things were MUL (based out pork fritters, Peyton Manning and rednecks. It’s of Chicago), IWS and HFX. Shortly after many a decent size midwest city that seems to be more crews came into play and it seemed the a step, or many steps, behind the rest of the scene was growing. Some worth mentioning cities its size. It catches up eventually... sort of. are TCB, S2L, NUA, MFK, KA and FRS. Each crew Everything is spread out and people love their brought something different to the scene. A space. Being a writer in Indy is a challenge, lot of people came and left though making especially if you’re not self-motivated. I’ve it inconsistent. There have been some great seen many come and go and comeback and writers that have lived here, but there are only stop and go a little more only to stop again. a few now. The current scene has a decent That being said, I still like my city. I have been amount of writers and some of them have afforded many opportunities that may not great potential. have happened if I grew up in a larger city. BOMBING SCIENCE

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BOMBING SCIENCE BSCI: Tell us about your come up. How did you they asked my friend to put us in touch. In get in to this graff shit. late 1995 I was put down in IWS. They taught me how to paint clean, hustle for paint and Sacred: I was always a creative and curious party hard. All we had for inspiration at the kid. I can’t remember a time when I wasn’t time was the graf pages in The Source and making art. I always seemed to live near Rap Pages and a copy of Subway Art that railroad tracks so naturally I paid attention to one of us stole from the library. In 1996 or 1997 the graffiti on freights and more importantly (for TOKEO transported from Atlanta. He was the myself) the markings on bridges underneath youngest writer in the scene but he was by far the tracks. I would walk the tracks all summer the best. Every crew in the city wanted him long finding new spots to explore. It was to join. Although he chose MUL, he still hung the summer of 1994 when I decided that around everyone else and directly influenced «Metallica Rules» wasn’t as cool as what I a good amount of us. He helped me develop thought I could do.. so I started painting my my style.. some of the things I still address in own dumb shit. In junior high I met Canz3. His my pieces today. In September of 1997, I met older brother DAZE was in IWS. I didn’t meet 6CENTS in art class. He was a free-spirited kid IWS right away, but I was aware of their work who knew nothing about graffiti, but could that indirectly influenced mine. I started writing draw like a motherfucker. We became friends SAC or SACONE during my sophomore year and I encouraged him to write so that we in high school when I met DJ SONIC. He was could have a character painter in the crew currently learning from the local legend DJ for our productions. Within a year he was TOPSPEED. Soon after, SONIC introduced me already making an impact. In 1998, during a to TOPSPEED and then it was on. Not only did brief IWS fallout, we started FAB Crew with the TOPSPEED open my mind to all types of new intent to become the next TATS, FX or DF crew... music, but he introduced me to more of the primarily focusing on murals and productions. graffiti scene. Then I learned that a friend of We still painted trains and many bridges and mine was the younger sister of one of the still bombed the streets occasionally, but we founders of IWS.. DOS1. DOS1 (later DOSE) really wanted to be amazing muralists. We and CREEP (aka CREPE) started the crew in kept doing our thing, despite the drama and 1995. Both of them were artists before graffiti. hate surrounding us, and it paid off. To this They saw me get up around the west side so day we get gigs frequently. In 2002, we co- BOMBING SCIENCE

BOMBING SCIENCE founded the event Subsurface with DOS1. It have many other interests but I lack the same started out as almost all Indianawriters, but it kind of passion in them. Food, music, basketball grew significantly by 2004 to showcase writers and design are a few examples. from other regions also. That really changed the game for me, because we were being BSCI: Any inspirations out side of the graff exposed to all these different styles firsthand. In world? 2005 I switched my name to SACRED. I started traveling more and meeting new people Sacred: I’m open-minded so I can draw getting influence from all over the place. I’ve inspiration from all types of sources. Social been doing pretty much the same thing ever interaction, nature, various arts, geometry.. just since. about anything really. BSCI: Tell us what in your opinion makes a BSCI: What is Indy famous for? Anything you respectable writer? would recommend eating or seeing out there? Sacred: A respectable writer needs to Sacred: Probably most famous for the crawl before they sprint. They must respect Indianapolis500. The snake pit there might what came before them. They need to be be more famous. Elvis performed his last resourceful. They need to be productive. concert here. The Colts get a lot of attention. They can’t be a biter. They have to begin by Gencon, Ribfest, brewfests, food fests, art fests, painting shit without permission. They have a concerts, first fridays gallery openings... a bit of strong foundation of letters, simple or wild. They everything but nothing going on all the time. paint clean, illegal or legal. They have a good We got some good museums. Good micro sense of color. They NEVER rat anyone out. They breweries (Sun King’s Grapefruit Jungle IPA don’t talk unnecessary shit. and Osiris Pale Ale are tasty). Eating is all over the place but not consistent. My favorites are BSCI: Other than graff, what are you Thai Papaya on the nw side... Taste in south passionate about? Broad Ripple has gourmet sandwiches that are good but everything is pricey... super nice Sacred: For me graff gets lumped in with my tacos at this mexican grocery store in Fountain art. That’s what I’m most passionate about. I Square(thanks GRAWER!)... West Coast Tacos BOMBING SCIENCE

BOMBING SCIENCE food truck co-owned by DJ SONIC has dope fan and an influence early on. Characters, korean tacos... Some Guys, Bazbeaux, Bebop, letters, fills... he has it all. Noble Romans (W. 10th St.only!) and Jockamo all have great pizza. BSCI: Street art, how do you feel about this movement. BSCI: What is the most appealing aspect of graff to you? Sacred: I like it when it’s thoughtful. I don’t like it when it’s just mere repetition of a meaningless Sacred: Maybe scale. I make a lot of art and I object.. especially if it’s not their image to begin don’t really work larger than when i’m painting with. a piece or a production. I like that it keeps me moving. Sitting down while designing or drawing BSCI: Everyone has a good story. Please share or brush painting gets boring to me after awhile. one with us. Graff or non graff related. Another important aspect is freedom. It’s great to be able to do it at any given moment with or Sacred: 6CENTS, NEMASIS and I were all painting without permission. And you do it the way you a bridge on a very rainy easter sunday. We want to.. not what your boss or a client thinks. noticed some guy in a rain suit walking his dog but we didn’t think anything of it. We just BSCI: Anybody out there you don’t know finished smoking a blunt when this cop comes personally that you would love to paint with and walking down the embankment.. soaked why? from the rain. Apparently someone called in (probably the fucker walking his dog) and Sacred: There’s tons of them.. but one that reported that gang members were painting this comes to mind quickly is GIANT. Always a big bridge. The odds were definitely against us.. we BOMBING SCIENCE

BOMBING SCIENCE had weed, we smelled like weed, had tons of BSCI: Any regrets in this graff game? painting evidence, and this cop is soaked from the rain so he’s probably pissed he had to come Sacred: Not taking my own advice and check it out. First thing he said is, «This doesn’t crawling before trying to sprint. I was always look like gang graffiti.» We bullshitted with him trying to go wild or creative before I really for a minute and he said he didn’t see any understood my letters. It took me years to problems there and told us to keep painting. He get decent and my process was definitely didn’t check our ID’s or nothing. That would’ve backwards. That’s all though.. I don’t regret been weird enough, but a minute later after he anything else. walked back up the hill, he grabs his partner (this old school white cop) to stand in the rain at BSCI: Any shout outs, call outs, things you would the top of the hill with him and praise our work. like to put out there? He yelled out, «Looks good guys!» and gave us a thumbs up. We just laughed (confused as hell) Sacred: Big shouts go to 6CENTS, CREPE, and kept painting... weird. DETOUR, NEMASIS, DOS1, WRUK, ISH, FLEX, TRAZ, TIMBER, FATIGUE, EXHAUST, LIKE, RAPES, GAMBLE, BSCI: Are you a big WU fan? If yes, who do you ENIME, ARIZE, OMEN74, DARK, MINES, TAZER and like better Ghost or Rae? MACHETE. Much love to my crews IWS, FAB, RTD and CISA. Much respect to many other crews Sacred: Not a big fan but I was definitely into including DF, ATT, MUL, MFK, FST, BID, SYW, BY, them back in the day. Raekwon definitely takes ACT, TAC, MOC, CT, PC and ELUSIVE. the title for me though. I think he’s better now than ever. BSCI: Sacred, thank you for your time homie. Much love. BOMBING SCIENCE

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